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Transmission Mount development

Last post 09-12-2006, 1:00 AM by bettonracing. 9 replies.
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  •  09-05-2006, 11:49 AM 597

    Transmission Mount development

    I'd like to develop transmission mounts using a similar process to the engine mounts (posted here in the fab forums)

    According to the SCC article as well as a few RB swap sites the same issue exists for the VQ & RB swaps - the crossmember needs to be flipped around and only the one set of bolt holes in the crossmember bolted to the rearmost holes in the car's frame.

    I expect these will be fabricated rather than CNC'ed (I'm not spending over $40 for something I technically don't need). I'll still do some drawings showing the dimensions and GD&T.

    I'm aware that trans mounts exist for the RB swap so if anybody is willing to share some pics OF THEIR CAR PARTS OR THEIR CAR'S PARTICULAR SETUP (that was a copyright disclaimer for those of u who missed that). As was stated with the engine mounts I have no intention of selling these mounts. My intention is to make these parts for my own car and share the information with anybody else who wants to do the same.

    Initial Design Considerations:

    1) Slotted mounting holes for easy installation and front-to-rear adjustability.

    2) Cost: $40 or less

    3) Exhaust humps or intergated tubing for exhaust to pass thru. If the integrated tubing option is included, it will require a more permanently mounted exhaust setup. Holes will probably be designed to allow 3.5" (12gage) exhaust tubing on both sides.

    4) Will allow use of stock transmission mount (the rubber insert) or custom inserts (stud goes thru insert rather than being built into it)

    5) Don't drop my trans on the floor. (Stress Analysis)

    This one shouldn't be too hard or take too long. Feel free to add anything I missed!

    Regards,

    H. Kurt Betton


    Argh... guess I'll stick w/ the plan...
  •  09-07-2006, 12:11 PM 650 in reply to 597

    Re: Transmission Mount development

    *crickets chirping*

    Don't all jump at once...

    Well can anybody supply me with bolt hole dimensions on the stock mount (and insert) so I can figure out how to make my own?


    Argh... guess I'll stick w/ the plan...
  •  09-10-2006, 5:01 AM 684 in reply to 650

    Re: Transmission Mount development

    I'll get under my car today if its decent out, and if I can get ahold of a jack. I'll try to take some pics with measurments edited onto them.  It's on a stock S13 240 by the way.
  •  09-10-2006, 5:44 PM 694 in reply to 684

    Re: Transmission Mount development

    Finally a response!

    Thanks alot. I'll be looking fwd to it.

    Kurt

    P.S. I'm building an S13 as well.


    Argh... guess I'll stick w/ the plan...
  •  09-10-2006, 8:18 PM 695 in reply to 694

    Re: Transmission Mount development

    Well, nothin but tornado warnings and rain today, so we'll see tomorrow.
  •  09-10-2006, 10:19 PM 703 in reply to 695

    Re: Transmission Mount development

    No problem. I'd much rather hear "couldn't do it today" than read "guy gets sucked up by tornado while working on his nissan"...

    Whenever you get a chance. U don't have to inconvenience yourself.

    Kurt


    Argh... guess I'll stick w/ the plan...
  •  09-11-2006, 5:07 AM 707 in reply to 703

    Re: Transmission Mount development

    By the way, what all exactly do you need measurements/pictures of? 
  •  09-11-2006, 7:13 PM 712 in reply to 707

    Re: Transmission Mount development

    I'm trying to fab my own trans crossmember to avoid me having to flip the stock crossmember around as is shown here:

    What I'm trying to do is reverse engineer the stock engine mount and then redesign the mount with the appropriate offset to utilize all bolt holes as well as bolt into the transmission. The best directions I can give u are to imagine that u have a blank piece of metal and a chunk of rubber and u have to drill all the appropriate holes in the metal and cut the rubber down to the right size. A hand drawn sketch will suffice.

    For anybody who needs it (maybe to help develop thoughts for other projects), I've written up a quick process to get the appropriate information [see below].

    ==================================================================== 

    For clarity, we'll define some axes:

    X-axis: An axis running along the length of the car from front to rear, the same direction the car accelerates and brakes

    Y-axis: An axis running along the width of the car from left to right (passenger side to driver's side).

    Z-axis: A vertical axis running from the top of the car to the bottom.

    Note: For all holes, try measure to the center of the hole.

    Pick a datum/reference point (most convenient in this case is probably the center of a bolt hole), and measure the distances to the other 3 holes in the X & Y directions. In the z direction, measure the distance between the two mounting surfaces of the chassis (i.e. the two surfaces the crossmember mounts to). U might be able to eyeball these, a straight edge might help accuracy/ precision.

    Using your already selected datum, use a similar procedure and measure to the bolts that attach the rubber inserts to the transmission itself. Ensure you include dimensions for all 3 axes where required.

    ====================================================================

    Kurt


    Argh... guess I'll stick w/ the plan...
  •  09-11-2006, 8:58 PM 714 in reply to 712

    Re: Transmission Mount development

    I got under the car and took quite a few pictures, and measurements of all of the bolt holes.  However, I didn't have anything to write them down on so I forgot them as soon as I got to the computer.  I'll plan ahead tomorrow.

  •  09-12-2006, 1:00 AM 717 in reply to 714

    Re: Transmission Mount development

    Lol. I have the same problem with anything that's not closely related to race cars.

    Talk to Fred about setting up a gallery for your pics. Nothing 'busts my chops' more than reading an informative thread w/ the small boxes w/ the red x's (usually associated w/ the free pics sites like photobucket, etc). If we ever have that problem here, we can always dig up Fred's contact info and bug the bejeeks out of him until he gets them fixed :D

    Kurt


    Argh... guess I'll stick w/ the plan...
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